to, you know, when he was out there talking to the farmers. i had to laugh at that. do you think the farmers are going to vote for him? i mean, i don't think so. he's standing in that corn field, i love the president, but, i don't know what he's thinking out there. he's not going to get any votes out there. i guess it was good television. but i don't see it. you know the answer is, you know, he's going to be right to come back to detroit. he should be going to wisconsin, where we have, you know, 100,000 people at madison, where we're rallying out there, and we're recalling senators, you know, he should be getting -- he should be in ohio, where we're going to recall sp-5. >> what's sb-5? >> what is it? this is the bill that kasich put in there that took away public bargaining, collective bargaining for public employees. including cops, including firemen, and teachers, and everybody else. i want him to fight. i don't want him to back up anymore. you know what, stare these people down. i think we can beat them. you know what, maybe we've got to go to 12, take them on.